Myron Permaculture for Nat Sec Overview 2023-05-31

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**Myron Platte:** [00:00:00] Actually, oh, that's my values here. Oh, hold on. It's wrong. **Family People:** It's wrong. Okay. We gotta somebody to go to. **Myron Platte:** Why did everyone erase all the first. Now action. Russian. We have to send the original thing to. Huh? Hi. Wait, who would get this? It would be em, right? Hall. No security. What's national security? [00:01:00] Military Sanchez maybe, or no, that's ex, ex extreme service that like, that's like firefighters divorce, **Family People:** whoever's working on, who's that **Myron Platte:** diploma, y'all? I do Isn't brick so much. This proposal that I'm gonna show is not exactly good, although it'd be using the SQ up course. The India has, doesn't have a problem with Russia has. I think that the, the mindset is whoever's advising on for, um, your, **Family People:** here's my input from my, **Myron Platte:** so. Is about population and how to solve demographic, demographic problems, both generally, [00:02:00] strategically, and then my proposals for how you would actually apply this **Family People:** proposal answer to the demographic. **Myron Platte:** Can you.

## Population: cities vs. villages **Myron Platte:** So the main, the main thesis here is that villages are the place where population increases and cities are the place where population decreases, plus cities and villages both necessary. Um, because the village, which is their main base, is their main base. Villages are the source of people, the source of food, primary, primary source. Anyway, the source of many raw materials. And possibly they could potentially be the source of many, some across, uh, [00:03:00] products, uh, craft, uh, all kinds of village crafts that are, that can be useful in the all kinds of, uh, products like, Baskets or smoked fish puree, all kinds of preserves as they don't have to be the standard, the standard, uh, on, on certain quality preserves that you get. You can get, uh, if, uh, people in villages got their act together, got, uh, with good systems going, they could get very, they could have very, uh, like. Polished, uh, production line. It's not, not professional, so, but villages are the base for a country existing. Your villages aren't there, and you don't have the country.[00:04:00] Now the cities are similarly important, but for different reasons.

## Population ratio **Myron Platte:** And I'm saying you gotta have a population ratio of village to city, at least 80 to 20%. Um, insert in percentages that I figured out actually, you know, but that's what I, that's my ballpark estimate. Were minimum, uh, for minimum, So here's the strategy at play with a, with ratio like that. In villages is where the population increases and you, uh, and from villages you get people, which through some kind of screening process for some kind of, I prefer would be, [00:05:00] um, Preferably it would be such that people with villages always had the, uh, the opportunity if they wish it to go and study to from specialty. But the standard in village is a highly skilled generalist. **Family People:** It is that **Myron Platte:** a high school generalist. Um, but, but in the cities, in the cities mostly there would be high skill specialists. Yeah, highest skill would be highest skill, special. And these people originate from the village because that's wherever it originates from that, that is the origin point. Now without cities, the country cannot continue to exist, um, and accept an improvement. A perfect [00:06:00] world without external affairs, a perfect world without natural disasters. That and, and emergencies that require specialized and, and, uh, expert, uh, application of pills. We do not long. Although, although there is a potential for working at a distance over the internet to be applicable to villages and so that many specialists could live in villages, but the main, uh,

## Why more people? [00:07:00] **Myron Platte:** So talk about why reasons better. So the reason there are more people, people not increase ability, decrease, decrease. Cities is, there's many reasons for it. But basically, basically the way to, a way to describe it is in villages, children are more ha more helping hands in, uh, the city. Children are respons pets. That's, that's how if the function, so, and for many other reasons, including the, the way urban life affects biology. People tend to have fewer children's cities. They're a lot of reason and can look at whatever sign,[00:08:00] right? So all the remains is to. **Family People:** Eat cookies. **Myron Platte:** All our made to eat cookies. **Family People:** Cookies are really much better than **Myron Platte:** you need the rest of your cookies. **Family People:** Good luck. Wait.[00:09:00] **Myron Platte:** So the major.

## How to attract city dwellers to villages? **Myron Platte:** So the question that remains is how do you attract people, the village? How do you make villages, places where city Ballards to. Because the way things are right now, Russia is a nation of city cars and we need it to be a nation of villagers, primarily as it was in the past,[00:10:00] because people needing room to have children to be all needs to be. So my goals for how, for, for how you're gonna do this. It is more than like just electrify and, and transportation, et cetera. Those that's obvious. Economic development. Yes. Sponsoring economic development of, of local by local for the locals [00:11:00] is, uh, yes, but that's not gonna cut it in my achievement. You're, you're gonna need systems that will. That will be resilient in such a way that people feel secure. People who are used, people are used to, **Family People:** don't give it back, **Myron Platte:** used to the security of the city. **Family People:** Can you stop it? Stop it. You **Myron Platte:** making, I dunno what I was gonna say. Villages. Um, and people make space, right, but I'm talking about that's, that's not where I'm at right now, village. What? I'm actually,[00:12:00] oh, you just dunno. No, I do. But how am I gonna sell it? Just, just say what you got and then you know, you can, you'll be dissatisfied with it and you know, **Family People:** flush it out. **Myron Platte:** You put down what you know, and then you can fill it in as you discover. Increase the garden potential there. Well, you're gonna make the villages as much like dos in terms of comfort level. That's awesome, **Family People:** Constable, in that you want the convenience. You had **Myron Platte:** him his.[00:13:00] Part of this has education. What the other. I am one. What are the things that about, this is where you.[00:14:00] Stop it. No, **Family People:** what are you doing? Okay, [00:15:00] you **Myron Platte:** can look at it. You may not touch. Please. Action.

## Things that are necessary **Myron Platte:** I find out that they want to live things that are necessary. Strong community. **Family People:** My turkeys, no, no. For three days, not just two. And. **Myron Platte:** Security. There you go. This why was getting stuck. Cause I was trouble killing.[00:16:00] **Family People:** Yeah. Not you. I know, but it's about. You in the middle of a main, how can I, can you give this in a room? There isn't any white **Myron Platte:** put a white The fridge anywhere. **Family People:** Yeah,[00:17:00] they're sitting. Here're supposed to be going after. What do you mean? We are? Of course you are. We already have this conversation. That's my, was. No, we just told you and you said, okay, can you an extreme **Myron Platte:** situation. **Family People:** I'm not right now, making something else. You want it? Has a lot of[00:18:00] mac cheese in a restaurant.[00:19:00] **Myron Platte:** All right, so basically **Family People:** you need. **Myron Platte:** Need a computer, and this is what prides **Family People:** most other things. **Myron Platte:** He comes **Family People:** out. Be and.[00:20:00] **Myron Platte:** A properly managed ecology. **Family People:** Hi mama. My phone is not mine. Come **Myron Platte:** who's here. **Family People:** Economic security.[00:21:00] Thank you, mommy. You right guess right. I'm listen to the whole thing. The. Refrigerator, can you gimme a.[00:22:00] I gonna take breakfast

## We need food security **Family People:** and we need **Myron Platte:** security, economic, security, community, and ecology. You didn't need to cut the mask with. As low as possible input from energy, because the more energy you have, the input that's, that's prob, that's hugely both burning more fossil fuel, which is would cost money and, uh, using more human labor, which is [00:23:00] inconvenient and uh, and annoying. Also, we want to decrease as much as possible. The requirements on village people of spending money, not the, not the possibility, but the requirement because that required them to earn money and to earn money. You have a job to, to really make the big bucks if you're able to avoid spending money. By living in the village, then you can make money more slowly and have it not be a problem because you're not spending it any money hardly. And then when you want to, you can't go and spend money in the, in the city or wherever you're gonna spend money, but it's not a requirement for life. And this will create a [00:24:00] network of extreme, uh, stability for everyone in the country. Because if someone in the city loses their job for some reason, they have a village to go back to where it, they don't need to spend money for this. So speaking of, speaking of village, uh, cottage, cottage **Family People:** crafts, what, **Myron Platte:** how did. **Family People:** There you go. Cottage, you **Myron Platte:** have, obviously you have all kinds of cheese making That's.[00:25:00] **Family People:** Hi.[00:26:00] Yes, clean air. Ivan, don't do my voice. Watch. No, I remember Ivan, that one. **Myron Platte:** Obtain out a great deal of labor. No. **Family People:** Hello? No. No. Labor **Myron Platte:** neighbor. Wire.[00:27:00] See an amount of labor that's required that will maximize **Family People:** human health and want this continued in perpetuity. That function to increase **Myron Platte:** the health of soil, of community, and the ecology [00:28:00] while providing the local population with all their needs. The education and the should be towards teaching people to. Which are not, same thing. Educational is not always.[00:29:00] As opposed to to obey and to negotiate information. These are not useful skills, neither in life nor as a scientist. Scientists need to be. Stick as well in order to produce anything useful, complies. Uh, same with any person. So there is no, there's no purpose to teach people to regurgitate details if and to, um, and to orders unless you're trying to create a bunch of factory workers, which I believe is something we [00:30:00] are trying to away from. What the lab, what labor? Oh, I dunno. To, I just didn't. Can you stop? Yes. So what will the mean methods be of providing.[00:31:00] Things off. Oh, this might not be oven's on, but nothing's in there. Not anything.[00:32:00]

## Sound ecology **Myron Platte:** Call whatever. Good. I'm just saying we're doing sound ecological. Ecologically start real ecological. Okay, so buildings that. Materials that, oh, right. That's another very important thing. Um, let's just don't hurt extremely cheap building methods. [00:33:00] Extremely cheap **Family People:** building methods. What people Wooden, **Myron Platte:** yes. They need to be inexpensive and extremely little, extremely comfortable. That's one big thing that people, me. The expense of getting there, expensive, doing all my things, expensive, building materials and, and the dis doing **Family People:** all that wooden, that's green form. **Myron Platte:** I, I thought of mentioning that. **Family People:** Thank you, wooden. That's **Myron Platte:** great. Wooden.

## Food security with low energy requirements **Myron Platte:** Food security in villages. What are the meth for obtaining food security with low energy requirements? [00:34:00] What I'm looking at, intensive **Family People:** card card. I am looking at. **Myron Platte:** I could even put first, but I didn't. Cause that's, I'm looking at it. **Family People:** Something and agri.[00:35:00] I'm only gonna pull the milk. I'm looking at crops. Oh, no. **Myron Platte:** Get up and apologize. She didn't do anything. I don't care. You still say sorry? Don't defend. Oh, I didn't know. No, that's what you do. Don't defend.[00:36:00] [00:37:00] This little steam for one, I would say, cause this is giving the soil everything it. Plants with such good nutrients, the su, with such good nutrients that um, they will be transformed. Just transformed beyond anything you could imagine. But it's just, I can't explain to you what this is. If you don't try it.[00:38:00]

## Nutrient dense farming **Myron Platte:** I cannot recommend you treatments farming enough, specifically. This is amending the soil with, uh, okay. First, you, you do a week as a test of the, uh, of the soil. Find out what nutrients are missing and what nutrients are, there are much of in balance. Then you create a mixture of soil amendments, of minerals that will **Family People:** balance that, **Myron Platte:** uh, balance that budget, so to speak. Balance that slate and you get. Plants growing out of that soil. You get the crops, uh, crops growing outta that soil that have, you get beets with 15 uh, bricks, [00:39:00] juice. You get pests that are, sorry, eating your weeds. There are so many ways in which, and, and then you get, you get crops that are, you can sell them for way more than you would otherwise be able to. You get people, when people eat these crops, it's like medicine. One leaf of kale can, can cure illness. You get, so you get, uh, very long storage times. So food, you get storage stores for much longer. Or you can store, you can store, uh, squash for years if it's, if it's grown into the soil. Well amended soil this topic this way, beyond, beyond Black Earth. Black earth is simply a marker of high carbon content. That means [00:40:00] nothing about how much calcium there is. It's enough mag, it's gonna in the soil. Copper. And when those, uh, when those trace elements are, you are actually balanced, you get, you get a wide range of highly, highly beneficial effects and thing about nutrient design, it can be applied to no tip to perennial crops. Forest and agri off culture and temple, and it will make all of these 10 times better for food security. [00:41:00] Another thing.

## Water management **Myron Platte:** Another very important thing is water management, and this is also general security. Water management is very important for firstly and was obviously avoiding flooding, and that is general security and it also food security because you're holding on your soil. But then the other aspect of it is, With proper water management, you can route proof, uh, any, uh, farm a farming community [00:42:00] or a region, especially if you're getting more than 10 centimeters of rainfall a year, you're getting more than 10 centimeters of rainfall a year. You can. Draw through a landscape when you're getting the, the less rainfall you get. It requires more and more special methods of water and management. The more you get, the more you can play around with the, the rainfall with also, one important thing to real notice is, There's, uh, there's an important distinction between landscapes that are arid and landscapes that are human. An arid landscape has [00:43:00] more evaporation than on average, more evaporation than precipitation. Yes, Gabriel. Whereas a human landscape has, uh, the inverse more precipitation than evaporation. And you have different problems and different, um, well, here's the thing. Even the human landscape can't have drought. So you still need to manage for, for drought is, no, not right now. And wait, **Family People:** sorry. **Myron Platte:** You still have to manage for, uh, drought in human landscape and you still haven't managed for flooding and. Fact you have to especially manage for flooding in an air landscape because arid landscapes usually get all the rainfall in one or two big events per year or even over three years. So you may have one [00:44:00] event in three years in an A landscape, but that event will be catastrophically huge right now. I've also spoken on people landscape since that is what is. And a human landscape and human watershed, and to a large center, an area one as well.

## Stop, slow, spread water **Myron Platte:** But the main goal, the main goal is to stop slow, spread and store water. That comes in as rain or in any other way. So here is your use above here is your ridge line. Water [00:45:00] flows downhill from the ridge line. So what We're going to ignore this part of the ridge. We are only concerned with this. Now there are contours in the landscape. There are valleys and there are ridges. Water tend to be shed off the ridges. The valleys water right angle are coming. **Family People:** So you get **Myron Platte:** water collecting in the valleys. Now, this is a great way to wash the wave soil. [00:46:00] This is a great way to, uh, lose all that water. Then, then when the drop, when a drop comes along, you have. No water to mitigate it with. So the first line of defense is actually forest. So on the ridge line you have a ridgeline forest. This is several things, **Family People:** water that. Lands on the ridge **Myron Platte:** and, uh, is slowed and stopped by the forest from you. It also stop it. It also, uh, the ridge forest also, um, condensed water on its leaks. So if there's humidity in the air coming over the ridge, if this, [00:47:00] uh, Can stop it and create alar a significant amount of participation right at the top of the slope, which is the best place to have the next, uh, the next thing to put in place. **Family People:** Yeah, please your plumbing **Myron Platte:** yourself. Next, do whatever you wanna call it. Right. So you see the water [00:48:00] concentrates itself without, instead of letting it do that can in on con whale, that's called Whale is a ditch and a bird. It build with water all along the leg because it's lovely. It falls tongue, lovely water soaks into this to the mal, which is loose. It's not, so it's water. Water wall also downwards into the soil and this spot is the best. When trees, [00:49:00] thick soil, you get double thicks of soil. You get good drainage above the drought level, but also, well, it's well water cause water soaks into it, the, and then drinks. What you get from Aqua is a fluke of water going downhill, going into the Earth, soaking it. Beer very slow and it can take seven years from the water ising the to end up in the river now TWIs. If you don't plant into them, they can become, they can create water longing conditions, so it's vital that you plant on the burn and below that low for the burn [00:50:00] trees and not is any trees. You want to plant productive trees because this is a productive system to plant trees. When trees have the roots guided downwards by a plume of water, they can send the roots very, very deep to go as deep as the water sinks. Well, not as deep, cause the water can sink very, very deep, but the water will stop being limited factor where they can sink the roots and they can send very far down. And then the trees, especially if you use nutrients. That's farming technique. The trees will have be extremely healthy and be able to get very, very good fruit. Now this is actually a very good place to put food for, which I will describe in a I will I **Family People:** in. [00:51:00] So **Myron Platte:** you plant the food forest along the swim. The edge of the food force have say nitrogen fixing these nitrogen fixing plants could also be these plants. I mean by plants. I'm talking. Willows. I'm talking about, I'm talking about honey looks, I'm talking about poplar. The older, I'm talking about Aston. Some of these are, uh, birch. Some of these are nitrogen pictures, some of them are not, but they all are cattle. [00:52:00] Um, red button. They function as like pioneer species and they also, uh, are apple trees are actually not. Um, buck. Awesome. So why, why we want plant trees, edges, quail. How does with any whales? And you have one you'll have. So highest be around.[00:53:00]

## Grazing corridor **Myron Platte:** And here you have another unders. You have a core with which paddle grace, and you can fence off portion of this, have the cow grace verse here, and then go with the rest. And the here rest and the caliber is here. And then it goes with request as it calibrates here. Um, and after the cattle breaks, chickens are coming as they come in here, as they come in here, as they come in here. And what you're doing there is you are, you are cutting the forage to make it, uh, making it more convenient for. And then you are, uh, and you're dropping a lot of cow packs and you are, and [00:54:00] parasites perhaps from in Paris to eggs in macal, and lots of flies will come and lay their eggs in the, so about three or four days after the cattle have put the renewal there, you bring the chickens and, and the chickens eat all the magazines they attack there. There will be many, many insects after. Cattle. The chickens will love to eat up and then they'll be decreasing the parasite load and the pest load on, and this process, which is valid to. Also will increase the soil fertility, especially if you do [00:55:00] things like give the cattle free choice, free choice of minerals. So they would be set up under a little roof. A place for cattle can, uh, drink, but also begin by choice. Eat. Uh, kelp, uh, like a dried kelp from the sea, or they could eat, uh, soft rock posse or high calcium supply. And very often when the, the cattle will taste in the herbs and the in the grass, the which nutrients are missing, which ones they aren't getting enough. And then they will, they will go to the minerals and they'll eat either some kelp if they, if say I died, is missing one of the other poison's, [00:56:00] not a calcium feels very eating calcium to placing. Or if it's not a phosphorus, eat that. And then they'll eat theos. And then the other minerals are sophomore constantly missing. And then when manure, Their manure is richer in the minerals than it would before. Hence the places that don't have enough of one mineral or another, the cattle will add mineral that necessary through supplementation if you find it. So this is a very good way of targeting to areas or improvement. And then, and you have this interaction tweaks, food, forests, cattle. And the grass. And this is important to understand because the food force is extremely beneficial to the grass line and vice versa. When the cattle are eating the grass, they're dropping all manure.[00:57:00] And then the chickens are too, they, uh, are feeding the forest at least the one down, possibly well as well. Cause there will be a fungal root now coming from the. Comes out guys, shut up and go away. Yeah, go over there and you have the coming up and picking up. So there's the high in the, in the epithelium and the soil really, really collects nutrients for also all the birds that live in the, they will also act as collectors of nutrients. The, and, [00:58:00] and, and you may have beehives spread out along the soil, which is, by the way, an easy place to put an access path of roof. So, Have beehives around here that would ing from whatever is growing in the field. All of flowers, from any crops you plant in the field can rotate this out. So once soil is very fertile, you can plant, uh, a crop of, or a crop of flowers or a crop of rape, scene plaques, and whatever you plant. That will be also benefiting the bees. The bees collect that and then you'll have plenty that is mostly one or another, uh, one or another per one or another. Well, but the milk from these [00:59:00] cows will be best. The best of the world will be up among the world class. World class quality. So it's not to be, uh, pasteurized. It's not, it's not for, um, mix being mixed with cows that were, that are heck in a bar, said, Hey, no, this milk is going to be for direction subs, it will be for bacon into cheeses. Extremely high quality. It will be for all kinds of specialty products. Now in the future, it's cause the method American cattle, unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, this milk will not be so expensive. It will be what milk is, and I think it's a very good future if everyone [01:00:00] has access to extremely high quality raw milk grown as this kind of pasture. The, the health benefits, um, and trust the quality of eggs you can get to a system like this. Unbelievable, oh, how demonstration of high quality eggs, sometimes eggs, what kinda difference can be, but like high quality eggs can be, can be life saving. I'll just get you started with one. I got off on a tangent about the, but really I'm talking about water. Here's the SW that you need to plant.[01:01:00] Alright, well, so.

## Back to water storage **Myron Platte:** Water storage. This is stop spreading stone, but we're storing the, is also here in the soil, of course, but more importantly, well, not more importantly, actually less important, but uh, more interestingly to. Can put [01:02:00] dams in the valleys, dams on the bridges. Now the ridge dams are extremes. People if they don't understand it, but a SW will bring water to the bridge just easily as to valley. So you have flexibility. Water in the valley. Water a ridge and they can be at the same level. The dam here and the dam here, it can be at the same level and do a bolt of water. The dam has because just the dam, uh, ridge dam, very low catch unless its coming off. So, uh, they rarely see a ridge dam that doesn't have to on it. You'll basically never see it. Where at the Valley Dam, the water comes towards anywhere river. But you generally want to put a swell on that too cause you wanna spread out the water bridge damage cause you want be able to water at [01:03:00] all valley damage you want. So water dams are valuable, um, cause they look down on a large area. Easy. It's easier to get water from here. The lights get pulled up. Valley dams are, are, uh, easier to get a large volume and generally when you watch what, get one or two large catchments as large as possible, high up in lens at, uh, what you call your E point. Water, **Family People:** no.[01:04:00] **Myron Platte:** Um, abuse dams will not be off cause they have too much water Fluctuation. Fluctuation water level fluctuation. Thank you. The, the, the amount of water a lot, and that's not very good for ture. You have less stability in an higher, the **Family People:** landscape. These **Myron Platte:** will be irrigation dam. They will be, they will be flooded. Irrigation dams, they'll be firefighting against without. Lower down on a lower down **Family People:** could have **Myron Platte:** a, so OC stands more likely, not likely as [01:05:00] do not likely to be Valley. They're most likely can be either hit foot or or about, so more likely to be. But basically is like a box you put on. Pull water at one level in a relatively flat landscape on, on one of the lower slopes. Now, aquaculture, why is aquaculture so important? Because it we're talking about food security, low energy.[01:06:00] That means not a lot of labor. And it means not a lot of fossil fuels being burned or a lot of, whatever your method is of creating energy, which doesn't have to be fossil fuels, it doesn't even have to burn anything. There's, uh, I'll go into, uh, providing energy security too. Alright, Waterfield lowest in the landscape. So, so what are you, what are you seeing here? What is the synergistic effects of all this? You have forest high on the bridge. You have forested quas. These are food forests. These are not just any old, uh, lumber, timber forest. These is a mix of [01:07:00] different kinds of production. Trees and other plants, you could have nut trees that also have a large, uh, uh, potential timber yield that also, um, anyway, they also have potential timber yield. You could have fruit trees, uh, underneath the timber trees and underneath the nut trees, and you can have lots of. Different kinds of berries, domesticated berries that you fit into the food forest system in, uh, food forest or a agri forestry. It's designer forest because that use the dynamics of a forest ecosystem in, uh, a way that we have designed to work. People have always sued the forest are. Claim that nature makes and we can't replicate them, but they're actually not that hard to replicate it.[01:08:00]

## Amazon rainforest **Myron Platte:** Um, one example of a food forest, ancient agri forestry is the Amazon rainforest. In fact, the Amazon rainforest hatch, where it is now, society believe it is actually manmade in terms of which species are there. There's an eco. People design, it'll look for large slots. In the Amazon ratings, there's a huge percentage of food bearing plants, and it's not because they started out that way. It's because people planted more and more of them and got to grow in a synergistic place, cooperating with the judge in a forest. Many of the dynamics of a home garden are. Okay, this is far less competition and far more cooperation. [01:09:00] I'm um, Ms.[01:10:00] The landscape you lotus up here in the L, we've been tweaking to add nutrient water. Oh, so here's this. Mexico forests condensing water on the leaves, add on the trunks and branches, dripping it down. You have the rain that happens. Any, and then force actually forced. Seed cloud they create right where there wasn't rain before. And they also trans, uh, about transpiration, uh, bringing water back into the atmosphere, the local area that wouldn't have, uh, been there again before. So they're keeping water cycling much, much more actively than would be happening without trees. But trees are vital. I need water now.[01:11:00] You also, and then, and then they also, I think about trees is that they increase drainage. They help, they help water get deeper and they, they, uh, slow, they break the impact of rain, not as trees, all vegetation does, but they break the impact of rain and spread it out so that it doesn't destroy the. They drop organic matter to soak up water. So they create, essentially they create a sponge of water that slowly, uh, where that slowly colas downhill, dwells this early earth work I showed earlier they do the same thing and they're enhanced greatly by having trees pledged on. So it really spilled our tree growing system.

## Forest outlining edges **Myron Platte:** Now we use this framework of a forest [01:12:00] to outline the edges of where we do, where we grow our crops, our wheat, our corn, perhaps corn. I mean Russia, corn doesn't grow places furthest up You go like your wheat, your buck wheat, your rape seed, your flax. And you're growing field cabbages, lots different things, but your field crops essentially are, are grown in the, in the framework of where these forest strips are. And that is, that is a key stability. Cause the forestry pins down stability, water management pins down the stability, especially since you have these ponds, you have ponds. Ponds collection nutrients, it becomes sinks for nutrients, uh, especially when they're ecosystem is fiber. And [01:13:00] so they're become very fertile. So if, if you eventually manage the m empty out, if you m empty out, uh, each pond once in five or 10 years, you can dig out the muck from the bottom of the pond. Good on the field, so downhill of all this, we could have some. There is a, there is a point at which you have filled all this time, you're adding nutrients to the water, and this is good things while you're still in the LA in the slope of the landscape. [01:14:00] Cause water's still above the waterway because the plants can use these nutrients.

## River **Myron Platte:** But now you're getting towards the river. And the river needs to be cleaned. The nutrient is not a positive thing with the river because it will go down to the sea and create algae blooms. And so before you get to the river, and, and the other thing is you don't wanna lose the nutrient off the, you want to keep it. So before the water gets to the river, you, the clean now has to be done a lot of waste. But the main thing you do is you use reeds and you use plants like willows as possible to [01:15:00] absorb all those exit. So you. Uh, intercept the water flows and put those through two many different things. But one thing you can do zigzaggy, 2% grade trench that goes across in the lower area, and this will have. Which is probably bothering my gravel, and it will also have cottonwood trees and willow trees Pledged right next to me **Family People:** [01:16:00] have. **Myron Platte:** We're going back and forth. The bottle was landscape. Then you have, uh, extremely huge. You're gonna have a huge amount of organic ladder, personally from all the, all the, uh, trees and all the, but you're also going to have, uh, extremely clean water coming out in, in the room. And you can also have one in the, maybe not this elaborate, maybe, maybe a few. But you can also, one of these systems uphill of residents houses live. And that says that completely important too, by the way people fit into this landscape very well.

## Water management is central **Myron Platte:** This landscape is design [01:17:00] for water management because water management is the way you do everything. Water can give you soil fertility. It can give you irrigation. Give you moderation. It. Water does many things for why we design the water. Water, and either it can be the maker or it can be the brick, either one. You need to water people. The mid slopes. The mid slopes between the river and the ridge is where peoples can invest. You want people to be a little below the key line far enough. Below that, you have root water pressure from a valley dam or ridge. [01:18:00] But far above river that they're well above the slope line and they're well above, uh, the worst of the cross. Depending on what climate, sun, climate, you can stay above the cross line entirely, and sub is year above the, the lee spring across or early fall. **Family People:** Put these on the table when you were little. Little, yes. You.[01:19:00] Speaking, please. **Myron Platte:** Yes, I think I could go on forever. Water management, but. **Family People:** No. No you don't. On the table. **Myron Platte:** Alright, so that's enough to watch Madison. **Family People:** Hello? Why didn't I, I dunno, can't I?[01:20:00]

## Residence and structures **Myron Platte:** Let's look at, uh, let's look at, uh, residence. How people are gonna live in what kind of structures? And how this is going to be inexpensive and without too much energy. Ture also, no, there are a lot of ways to use that, but I think we need to look at. We need to look at **Family People:** modifications[01:21:00] **Myron Platte:** of the cheapest and most energy efficient traditional Russian method of housing. Going to look at the way of modifying this method makeup. Also, the best, uh, most comfortable kind of quality that provides you to this method is the underground house for. A complete rethink of the design and a a reeducation program, but the advantages [01:22:00] are many less steel to the house. By a lot. You will need less or be very chief to Bill. The main, the main requirement will be labor for energy, uh, for, for digging is.[01:23:00] Will be a very secure and private wallet again, if properly designed, **Family People:** Hey, look at all this. **Myron Platte:** And there is no prohibitive except with building. **Family People:** And **Myron Platte:** there are multi methods, but vary, uh, levels of permanence, but mostly, but you can. With main materials of either concrete [01:24:00] or wood as a polyethylene membrane. Polyethylene is that polyethylene is a very. Is a very ecologically, uh, benign material that you can degrade, said that degrades, uh, completely under new, uh, you never expose it to ubi, so would theoretically not degrade **Family People:** timber. **Myron Platte:** S timber and polyethylene. **Family People:** These **Myron Platte:** create a very inexpensive and very efficient, that can also be beautiful. It can also be a very comfortable place to live [01:25:00] without, um, many of the problems that people who usually associate with of being a dark and di. Um, uh, I will, I will talk about design separately, but we designing those which will make them. **Family People:** Yes.[01:26:00] Ing **Myron Platte:** bullshit. **Family People:** See, this is the problem we have.[01:27:00] Community room. **Myron Platte:** He's awesome. What this guy says, I would say he's right. He's **Family People:** morely higher than us. No.

## Food forest **Myron Platte:** Alright, so a food forest, a food forest, uh, is, can be described. This is a very unacademic way I'm talking about, but gimme a guide as having seven layers or more layers, but we think of it in layers to [01:28:00] help us keep all theological. So you have the canopy trees, they're big. So these candy trees are the, like the roof of the forest. They, they keep other trees are getting too much light. Um, and one thing, one thing you'll see with some trees, first instance apple trees is very common. That will have way too much fruit and the branches will break because they're trying to carry more than they could hold[01:29:00] probably. But it kills trees, apple trees, they are after really hard time cause they way, way too much. There's a thinning, right? Well, the thin them, how am I gonna get up there? Don't break. Little don't. Right. But if you have shade, caramel shade from cane trees, suddenly apple tree are getting over. Sun. Sun. So the apple trees down here, **Family People:** forest, apple tree, or they make the best apple tree. Yeah. Inside the forest. The wolf. **Myron Platte:** Yeah. That a food for us, huh? That's **Family People:** an AAL food force too. Those **Myron Platte:** trees up. So the sun comes down and it hits the tree bit, but from here it does the tree. And from here.[01:30:00] So here's your apple tree. Here's your canop trees, right? Right. But here's your apple. Your apple tree is getting enough sun to produce the right amount of fruit so it doesn't be destroyed by it. Own fruit. And then you have smaller trees. So here's the apple here. It's so you pair here, et cetera, **Family People:** medium size. You don't want this. **Myron Platte:** You made it with a lot of extra, so I managed to make something that add that you couldn't thank. That was amazing. Yeah. That's part that I did. **Family People:** I,[01:31:00] **Myron Platte:** no, he's not. Maybe the, well then you might have another, but it's, it's gonna be one of these left lights. A chair, maybe I, another, this might be shorter. You might, you might even not have, you might already have. Paul Shrubs,[01:32:00] no groin. You might have, you might have no push here. City have some like stronger, some ground covers on the ground, and all these plates we're working synergistic and some of them relation pictures, some of them will uh, be insect tractors, but generally the work together to create an ecosystem. Of course, naturally there will be all kinds of bug, like animal detractors, like there'll be squirrel, there'll be rabbits, there'll be hedge, all kinds of things. And if more nuisances, there are ways to handle, I'm not gonna go into all the details, but there are, there are ways to handle. For instance, if your squirrels are stealing all your nuts **Family People:** from your trees, **Myron Platte:** this is low energy.

## Yield per energy input **Myron Platte:** Remember, we're not going for the max yield, we're going for the maximum. Yield [01:33:00] to energy put in. Okay, action. Which is, which is harvest to energy to put in. Mama, I already talked about that. Okay. I already talked about that. So what you do when you have squirrels stealing all your food is you put cont, you give the squirrels containers to put the nuts into. So you are having those cool harvest for, that's almost no energy from you. All you had to do was put the containers out and then carry them back. Yeah. Still. Yeah, and you can hang, you can hang like wire cages on the trees, put things into, and then you pick them out and then put Yeah. **Family People:** Ah, slick. Yeah. And **Myron Platte:** then, and then you go. And then for different kinds of rodents, you can have it collect grain for you, put it, take a tube, make it tube, put an upward tilt, and then you tilt downwards to pass on. There's a ramp up. They go in, they come into this tube, they go and.[01:34:00] And then caps, put it into your, but so there's a real possibility that you can use. To harvest a huge amount of your food for screen. Yeah. Yeah. I've, I've seen diagrams of that I've seen, but they're gonna be harvesting find. It might even be, it might not be viable because it might harvesting, but it is definitely viable for chicken. You have rodents is collecting chicken. People, they eat the chicken though. No. **Family People:** Are gonna make. **Myron Platte:** It's also not [01:35:00] hard to it **Family People:** actually. **Myron Platte:** Yeah. So there's a lot of possibilities there for using rodents to do a harvesting course. Whereas, and this is, this is the key point in from culture. In designing these systems, you need to remember that the problem is the solution. The problem is the solution. Squirrels are stealing your nuts. Squirrels are taking your nuts and putting them in something. Where are they putting them? What is the trigger that get squirrels to put them where? So you fill the trigger and the trigger turns out to be a hole. So you create a hole for the squirrels to put to cash to nothing, and suddenly you are getting a bounty of nuts from the school practicing it for you. It's a. Brilliant things in, in any case, you can't still have too many squirrels of course. So you [01:36:00] foster, you find ways to increase slightly the population of cats. You find ways to increase the populations of different weasel or whatever. You can increase populations of predatory birds. Put the milk away. So you get, so you get the, the trickle down and then. And this can be variety. These trees can be further apart or they can be closer together a little bit in different places. And they further apart, especially you cannot not have an understory tree in a specific spot. Right? And then you get more light to the brand. So there would be, so it actually makes like these are low, further apart and there's no under storage. It effectively makes it clearing where you have lots and lots of bears. This will be a high potential bear. We put more clothes and uh, and two main trees in the area and they'll die. You created a very good mushroom condition. You can plant mushroom farm there, so that can be over here. The canopies are [01:37:00] closed and closed, and there's dead logs flying on the ground. You can bury the water and plant some kinda mushroom that's valuable. Perhaps, uh, let's put morales. You can plant morales there that you're not gonna find other ones, and you can be harvesting morales from your food. Whoops. And morales are expensive. These are valuable mushrooms. So there's the, the possibility of food. Port forests are endless. You can run pigs through them to harvest, to harvest the nuts if you don't want to eat the nuts yourself. So the, the, you can convert nuts to pork. You can be, you can run chickens through them. You can run cows through them sometimes, depending on how you design it. So the food force can be designed many, many different ways. You can design it to, primarily, primarily for timber. [01:38:00] You can design it anyway. There's so many things to do with food force as long as you understand the ecosystem dynamics that are happening. And these are things that the village people living in the village will need to understand. This will be what they live by. Management of ecosystems, food ecosystems that are designed for human benefit.